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	<title>Comments on: PROVEN:  Barack Obama Presented Forged Certificate of Live Birth</title>
	<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/</link>
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		<title>By: xinunus</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-9901</link>
		<dc:creator>xinunus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-9901</guid>
		<description>I think the same person that created the fake National Guard records for Mr. Rather of CBS News probably was behind the fake Obama "certification of live birth" document. There is no difference. Both forged documents. Look at what it did to Mr. Rathers career.. LMAO..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the same person that created the fake National Guard records for Mr. Rather of CBS News probably was behind the fake Obama &#8220;certification of live birth&#8221; document. There is no difference. Both forged documents. Look at what it did to Mr. Rathers career.. LMAO..</p>
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		<title>By: David Robarts</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-9771</link>
		<dc:creator>David Robarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-9771</guid>
		<description>It should be relatively easy for the county where Obama claims to have been born to search their records and discover whether or not his claim is true. Certainly paper certificates are not that hard to forge, but getting the record into the files where the document was supposed to have originated would be much harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be relatively easy for the county where Obama claims to have been born to search their records and discover whether or not his claim is true. Certainly paper certificates are not that hard to forge, but getting the record into the files where the document was supposed to have originated would be much harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Acuplus</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>Acuplus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-5126</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Have you ever realized that Christianity has a history of being the more violent religion?&lt;/i&gt;

Totally wrong. Muslims killed hundreds of millions of people over a span of 1,400 years that continues unabated today.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Have you ever realized that Christianity has a history of being the more violent religion?</i></p>
<p>Totally wrong. Muslims killed hundreds of millions of people over a span of 1,400 years that continues unabated today.</p>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4892</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4892</guid>
		<description>With the hacking skills of those masters of the underground, this issue is a mute point. If someone had hacked into the official records, that fee would bring more joy than the consequences. If Obama was not a citizen, this would have reared it's ugly head long ago. I am no Obama supporter, but I think all this crap is to get people their 10 minutes of fame. Think about this, there is one person in this country who could have already pulled this birth certificate and handed it over to the RNC if it existed, and yet there is no October Surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the hacking skills of those masters of the underground, this issue is a mute point. If someone had hacked into the official records, that fee would bring more joy than the consequences. If Obama was not a citizen, this would have reared it&#8217;s ugly head long ago. I am no Obama supporter, but I think all this crap is to get people their 10 minutes of fame. Think about this, there is one person in this country who could have already pulled this birth certificate and handed it over to the RNC if it existed, and yet there is no October Surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparhawk</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4710</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4710</guid>
		<description>What professional degrees did we say Mr Obama has selected (law?)and has the status of "Professor"?  From where? "Harvard".  Having patneral grandparents that reside outside of country and being related to 8 other siblings and half siblings.  Is there any doubt in anyone's minds that Mr. Obama knows where he was born?  How many other institutions had to see a certificate? I would think that this basic question was asked and determined before his rise to the top spot began. Also how about everyone that has casted absentee ballots, etc and who would get the call by the Democrats to run?  We supposedly have the finest secret finding administration that has existed in power right now.  They are not democrats.  With every phone conversation secured on disk and so many people being watched; it would be exciting to find out who blundered about finding out basic fundamental facts about candidates.  It seems sort of par for the course because most people don't even know they have been stripped of their constitutional rights. 

Who is going to respond to these lawsuits before an injunction is presented to stop the presidental election only 2 weeks away.  If this is BS it needs to be addressed.  If it is remotely questionable or true; then contingency plans must be set in motion. 
All the caddie finger pointing needs to stop and the issues need to be resolved.

Sparhawk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What professional degrees did we say Mr Obama has selected (law?)and has the status of &#8220;Professor&#8221;?  From where? &#8220;Harvard&#8221;.  Having patneral grandparents that reside outside of country and being related to 8 other siblings and half siblings.  Is there any doubt in anyone&#8217;s minds that Mr. Obama knows where he was born?  How many other institutions had to see a certificate? I would think that this basic question was asked and determined before his rise to the top spot began. Also how about everyone that has casted absentee ballots, etc and who would get the call by the Democrats to run?  We supposedly have the finest secret finding administration that has existed in power right now.  They are not democrats.  With every phone conversation secured on disk and so many people being watched; it would be exciting to find out who blundered about finding out basic fundamental facts about candidates.  It seems sort of par for the course because most people don&#8217;t even know they have been stripped of their constitutional rights. </p>
<p>Who is going to respond to these lawsuits before an injunction is presented to stop the presidental election only 2 weeks away.  If this is BS it needs to be addressed.  If it is remotely questionable or true; then contingency plans must be set in motion.<br />
All the caddie finger pointing needs to stop and the issues need to be resolved.</p>
<p>Sparhawk</p>
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		<title>By: Justme</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4376</link>
		<dc:creator>Justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-4376</guid>
		<description>angelawalters

He did not spend the better part of his childhood in a Muslim school. He also spent 3 years in a Christian school. 

This article is complete bs. People are looking for a reason to not like this man and it always falls back on the fact that they have been scared into believing he is a Muslim. Have you ever realized that Christianity has a history of being the more violent religion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angelawalters</p>
<p>He did not spend the better part of his childhood in a Muslim school. He also spent 3 years in a Christian school. </p>
<p>This article is complete bs. People are looking for a reason to not like this man and it always falls back on the fact that they have been scared into believing he is a Muslim. Have you ever realized that Christianity has a history of being the more violent religion?</p>
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		<title>By: Philistone</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Philistone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-291</guid>
		<description>RE: FBI Background Checks

Two posters here are mistaken. The FBI does NOT run background checks on congressional candidates. The FBI can only "run a background check" if they receive a request from a bona fide law enforcement official, and then only in an identifiable context (priors, national warrents, gun permit requests and some others).

If fact, the FBI doesn't do "background checks" at all (they will send information found in their criminal database, but unless they are actually working on a case, they won't do any other investigation). 

Full scale background checks are handled as part of a request for a security clearance, but that's handled by the Defense Security Service (DSS) for DoD personel or Defense Industrial Security Clearance Office (DISCO) for defense contractors.

Congress is VERY protective of its perogatives, and would NOT allow the executive branch (FBI, DoD) to determine who could or could not become a congressman.

The President, as CIC and head of the executive, has access to classified information without the need for a security clearance. (Hillary, though, as first spouse, did NOT have a security clearance and therefore was NOT (or should not have been) allowed to view classified material).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: FBI Background Checks</p>
<p>Two posters here are mistaken. The FBI does NOT run background checks on congressional candidates. The FBI can only &#8220;run a background check&#8221; if they receive a request from a bona fide law enforcement official, and then only in an identifiable context (priors, national warrents, gun permit requests and some others).</p>
<p>If fact, the FBI doesn&#8217;t do &#8220;background checks&#8221; at all (they will send information found in their criminal database, but unless they are actually working on a case, they won&#8217;t do any other investigation). </p>
<p>Full scale background checks are handled as part of a request for a security clearance, but that&#8217;s handled by the Defense Security Service (DSS) for DoD personel or Defense Industrial Security Clearance Office (DISCO) for defense contractors.</p>
<p>Congress is VERY protective of its perogatives, and would NOT allow the executive branch (FBI, DoD) to determine who could or could not become a congressman.</p>
<p>The President, as CIC and head of the executive, has access to classified information without the need for a security clearance. (Hillary, though, as first spouse, did NOT have a security clearance and therefore was NOT (or should not have been) allowed to view classified material).</p>
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		<title>By: BA</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-264</guid>
		<description>This document is not certified, and it should be to prove anything. See (b):

§338-13  Certified copies.  (a)  Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm

     (b)  Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

     (c)  Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This document is not certified, and it should be to prove anything. See (b):</p>
<p>§338-13  Certified copies.  (a)  Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm</a></p>
<p>     (b)  Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.</p>
<p>     (c)  Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: calylily</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>calylily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-263</guid>
		<description>IS THIS ALL YOU CAN COME UP WITH? ! ? !

Trying to bring Obama down to the depths that you are in, having a candidate that is losing quickly in the polls . . . I'm not biting. You have got to do better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS THIS ALL YOU CAN COME UP WITH? ! ? !</p>
<p>Trying to bring Obama down to the depths that you are in, having a candidate that is losing quickly in the polls . . . I&#8217;m not biting. You have got to do better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: gamingtips</title>
		<link>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>gamingtips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/#comment-262</guid>
		<description>This is ridiculous.  The FBI does background checks on these people.  Putting rumors from blogosphere ahead of FBI security measures is absurd.  Several factors can account for differences.  First, the amount of time the acual copy has been stored, and the conditions in which it was stored, could affect coloration.  Second, this could be a certified copy, not the original certificate.  As for why it says "African" and not "Negroe," keep in mind that his father was not African American, but actually AFRICAN.  This might explain the difference.  I think posts like this give all conservatives, and especialy the ones in the blogosphere, a bad rap.  Let's talk about the issues and policies, not smear libel all over the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  The FBI does background checks on these people.  Putting rumors from blogosphere ahead of FBI security measures is absurd.  Several factors can account for differences.  First, the amount of time the acual copy has been stored, and the conditions in which it was stored, could affect coloration.  Second, this could be a certified copy, not the original certificate.  As for why it says &#8220;African&#8221; and not &#8220;Negroe,&#8221; keep in mind that his father was not African American, but actually AFRICAN.  This might explain the difference.  I think posts like this give all conservatives, and especialy the ones in the blogosphere, a bad rap.  Let&#8217;s talk about the issues and policies, not smear libel all over the web.</p>
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